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Lenny Filer
Feb 17
Other recipients: jo...@gaw.com, jo...@btc.com
Hi Josh, I received Luke's email just now with the below offer, and was just curious why the S4's were removed from the original Compensation offering? Originally Luke suggested 5 x S4's plus some hosting money. Now I am being offered the origin
Hi Josh,

I received Luke's email just now with the below offer, and was just curious why the S4's were removed from the original Compensation offering?

Originally Luke suggested 5 x S4's plus some hosting money. 

Now I am being offered the original 10 S3's + hosting money.

I just want to make sure this is not because I included him on our emails and now the original offer is not being considered due to him possibly being upset that I went to you on this?

If you think that this is fair then I will go with it, but I was hoping for the S4's as they are priced so inexpensively now. Even about $100 less than when he first suggested the S4's.

Please let me know if this is the best you can do for me.

Thanks,
Daniel



----- Forwarded Message -----
From: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>
To: lenny...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

Hello Daniel,

Here is what I can offer you.

10 S3's and 6.777BTC to cover 6 months of hosting based on the $.90 per day, per unit.

Please provide me with a shipping address and BTC address so we can get this wrapped up.

Thanks,

Luke

Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Tue, 10 Feb at 4:30 pm , GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com> wrote:
Hello Daniel,

I am trying to work on this for you and I had some thoughts.

If you are willing to accept hardware instead of BTC would accepting 5 S4's be compensation enough? You are more than doubling your hashing power and you would be receiving hardware that has been used much less than the S3's. Also the S4's are slightly more power efficient than the S3's per GH/s. 

Also including lost mining profits in your request for S4's doesn't make sense as you will be mining and actually making higher profits. If anything I could ask about something to help offset the cost of electricity but I would have to run this by my GM. 

Here is a breakdown of the S3's vs S4's:

S3
Current Hashrate:
4780GH/s
Power consumption:
0.765Watt/GH/s
Current price= $169 x 10 = $1690

S4
5 S4 Hashrate:
10000GH/s+
Power consumption:
0.69Watt/GH/s
Current price= $550 x 5 = $2750

This is all preliminary but I want to make sure when I go to my GM with a proposal he will likely approve it and I think both proposals you made are on the high side. 

Your first offer without accepting hardware you ask that we pay you mining profits (without factoring difficulty/rate decreases) and you ask that we pay you for your free hosting which doesn't really make sense as your free hosting does not come out of your mining profits and therefor do not really make sense to include. Also by the time your free hosting would expire your miners would be worth next to nothing so factoring in a $200 used price (which is already higher than they are selling for) also doesn't really make much sense.

I hope you do not take what I am saying the wrong way I just know my GM will dissect this even further and will likely not approve either offer and I know you are looking for a resolution sooner rather than later.

If you would accept the S4's and my GM would approve I could have them shipped out to you very quickly as well.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Luke


Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Fri, 6 Feb at 6:06 pm , Daniel Simpson <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
  • hello? I sent you an email earlier today and haven't heard back at all, please contact me..thanks!
57643


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Lenny Filer
Feb 17
Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners
Other recipients: sup...@gawminers.com, lru...@gawminers.com, jo...@btc.com, jo...@gaw.com
Hi Luke, I was just wondering why the original offer for compensation which had the S4's is no longer an option? I was hoping for the S4's as they are priced so inexpensively now. Even about $100 less than when you first suggested the S4's. Tha
Hi Luke, 

I was just wondering why the original offer for compensation which had the S4's is no longer an option?

I was hoping for the S4's as they are priced so inexpensively now. Even about $100 less than when you first suggested the S4's.

Thanks,
Daniel




- show quoted text -
From: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>
To: lenny...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners
- show quoted text -

Hello Daniel,

Here is what I can offer you.

10 S3's and 6.777BTC to cover 6 months of hosting based on the $.90 per day, per unit.

Please provide me with a shipping address and BTC address so we can get this wrapped up.

Thanks,

Luke

Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Tue, 10 Feb at 4:30 pm , GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com> wrote:
Hello Daniel,

I am trying to work on this for you and I had some thoughts.

If you are willing to accept hardware instead of BTC would accepting 5 S4's be compensation enough? You are more than doubling your hashing power and you would be receiving hardware that has been used much less than the S3's. Also the S4's are slightly more power efficient than the S3's per GH/s. 

Also including lost mining profits in your request for S4's doesn't make sense as you will be mining and actually making higher profits. If anything I could ask about something to help offset the cost of electricity but I would have to run this by my GM. 

Here is a breakdown of the S3's vs S4's:

S3
Current Hashrate:
4780GH/s
Power consumption:
0.765Watt/GH/s
Current price= $169 x 10 = $1690

S4
5 S4 Hashrate:
10000GH/s+
Power consumption:
0.69Watt/GH/s
Current price= $550 x 5 = $2750

This is all preliminary but I want to make sure when I go to my GM with a proposal he will likely approve it and I think both proposals you made are on the high side. 

Your first offer without accepting hardware you ask that we pay you mining profits (without factoring difficulty/rate decreases) and you ask that we pay you for your free hosting which doesn't really make sense as your free hosting does not come out of your mining profits and therefor do not really make sense to include. Also by the time your free hosting would expire your miners would be worth next to nothing so factoring in a $200 used price (which is already higher than they are selling for) also doesn't really make much sense.

I hope you do not take what I am saying the wrong way I just know my GM will dissect this even further and will likely not approve either offer and I know you are looking for a resolution sooner rather than later.

If you would accept the S4's and my GM would approve I could have them shipped out to you very quickly as well.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Luke


Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Fri, 6 Feb at 6:06 pm , Daniel Simpson <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
  • hello? I sent you an email earlier today and haven't heard back at all, please contact me..thanks!
57643


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Luke Rusten
Feb 18
Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners
Other recipients: lenny...@yahoo.com, sup...@gawminers.com, jo...@btc.com, jo...@gaw.com
Hello Daniel, The S4 request you made was far outside the amount of hashing power of your S3's and you also wanted BTC on top of that. I went back to the GM with your request and was told that we can only offer you the 10 S3's you own. I think ge
Hello Daniel,

The S4 request you made was far outside the amount of hashing power of your S3's and you also wanted BTC on top of that. I went back to the GM with your request and was told that we can only offer you the 10 S3's you own. I think getting the hardware you paid for and some compensation for the free hosting is a reasonable offer so that is what I am pushing for as I want to resolve this for you. 

Thanks,
- show quoted text -

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Lenny Filer <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Luke, 

I was just wondering why the original offer for compensation which had the S4's is no longer an option?

I was hoping for the S4's as they are priced so inexpensively now. Even about $100 less than when you first suggested the S4's.

Thanks,
Daniel




From: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>
To: lenny...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

Hello Daniel,

Here is what I can offer you.

10 S3's and 6.777BTC to cover 6 months of hosting based on the $.90 per day, per unit.

Please provide me with a shipping address and BTC address so we can get this wrapped up.

Thanks,

Luke

Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Tue, 10 Feb at 4:30 pm , GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com> wrote:
Hello Daniel,

I am trying to work on this for you and I had some thoughts.

If you are willing to accept hardware instead of BTC would accepting 5 S4's be compensation enough? You are more than doubling your hashing power and you would be receiving hardware that has been used much less than the S3's. Also the S4's are slightly more power efficient than the S3's per GH/s. 

Also including lost mining profits in your request for S4's doesn't make sense as you will be mining and actually making higher profits. If anything I could ask about something to help offset the cost of electricity but I would have to run this by my GM. 

Here is a breakdown of the S3's vs S4's:

S3
Current Hashrate:
4780GH/s
Power consumption:
0.765Watt/GH/s
Current price= $169 x 10 = $1690

S4
5 S4 Hashrate:
10000GH/s+
Power consumption:
0.69Watt/GH/s
Current price= $550 x 5 = $2750

This is all preliminary but I want to make sure when I go to my GM with a proposal he will likely approve it and I think both proposals you made are on the high side. 

Your first offer without accepting hardware you ask that we pay you mining profits (without factoring difficulty/rate decreases) and you ask that we pay you for your free hosting which doesn't really make sense as your free hosting does not come out of your mining profits and therefor do not really make sense to include. Also by the time your free hosting would expire your miners would be worth next to nothing so factoring in a $200 used price (which is already higher than they are selling for) also doesn't really make much sense.

I hope you do not take what I am saying the wrong way I just know my GM will dissect this even further and will likely not approve either offer and I know you are looking for a resolution sooner rather than later.

If you would accept the S4's and my GM would approve I could have them shipped out to you very quickly as well.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Luke


Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Fri, 6 Feb at 6:06 pm , Daniel Simpson <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
  • hello? I sent you an email earlier today and haven't heard back at all, please contact me..thanks!
57643





--
Luke Rusten
TS Manager
GAW Miners LLC
O: (866) 554-5861 x300
C: (802) 275-8932


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Lenny Filer
Feb 18
Other recipients: jo...@btc.com, jo...@gaw.com
Josh, I'm curious why you cant just make the call on this? and why I have to go to Luke and have him ask the GM? I dont understand this at all. Daniel
Josh, 

I'm curious why you cant just make the call on this? and why I have to go to Luke and have him ask the GM?

I dont understand this at all.

Daniel



- show quoted text -
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Luke Rusten <lru...@gawminers.com>
To: Lenny Filer <lenny...@yahoo.com>
Cc: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>; Josh Garza <jo...@btc.com>; Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

- show quoted text -
Hello Daniel,

The S4 request you made was far outside the amount of hashing power of your S3's and you also wanted BTC on top of that. I went back to the GM with your request and was told that we can only offer you the 10 S3's you own. I think getting the hardware you paid for and some compensation for the free hosting is a reasonable offer so that is what I am pushing for as I want to resolve this for you. 

Thanks,



On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Lenny Filer <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Luke, 

I was just wondering why the original offer for compensation which had the S4's is no longer an option?

I was hoping for the S4's as they are priced so inexpensively now. Even about $100 less than when you first suggested the S4's.

Thanks,
Daniel




From: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>
To: lenny...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

Hello Daniel,

Here is what I can offer you.

10 S3's and 6.777BTC to cover 6 months of hosting based on the $.90 per day, per unit.

Please provide me with a shipping address and BTC address so we can get this wrapped up.

Thanks,

Luke

Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Tue, 10 Feb at 4:30 pm , GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com> wrote:
Hello Daniel,

I am trying to work on this for you and I had some thoughts.

If you are willing to accept hardware instead of BTC would accepting 5 S4's be compensation enough? You are more than doubling your hashing power and you would be receiving hardware that has been used much less than the S3's. Also the S4's are slightly more power efficient than the S3's per GH/s. 

Also including lost mining profits in your request for S4's doesn't make sense as you will be mining and actually making higher profits. If anything I could ask about something to help offset the cost of electricity but I would have to run this by my GM. 

Here is a breakdown of the S3's vs S4's:

S3
Current Hashrate:
4780GH/s
Power consumption:
0.765Watt/GH/s
Current price= $169 x 10 = $1690

S4
5 S4 Hashrate:
10000GH/s+
Power consumption:
0.69Watt/GH/s
Current price= $550 x 5 = $2750

This is all preliminary but I want to make sure when I go to my GM with a proposal he will likely approve it and I think both proposals you made are on the high side. 

Your first offer without accepting hardware you ask that we pay you mining profits (without factoring difficulty/rate decreases) and you ask that we pay you for your free hosting which doesn't really make sense as your free hosting does not come out of your mining profits and therefor do not really make sense to include. Also by the time your free hosting would expire your miners would be worth next to nothing so factoring in a $200 used price (which is already higher than they are selling for) also doesn't really make much sense.

I hope you do not take what I am saying the wrong way I just know my GM will dissect this even further and will likely not approve either offer and I know you are looking for a resolution sooner rather than later.

If you would accept the S4's and my GM would approve I could have them shipped out to you very quickly as well.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Luke


Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Fri, 6 Feb at 6:06 pm , Daniel Simpson <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
  • hello? I sent you an email earlier today and haven't heard back at all, please contact me..thanks!
57643





--
Luke Rusten
TS Manager
GAW Miners LLC
O: (866) 554-5861 x300
C: (802) 275-8932



“The information contained in this email message may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and any attachments from your system.”


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Lenny Filer
Feb 18
Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners
Other recipients: lru...@gawminers.com, sup...@gawminers.com, jo...@btc.com, jo...@gaw.com
Hi Luke I would rather 3 S4s and the 6.777 BTC. This way I'm not trying to find a hosting space for ten miners only 3 and the BTC well help cover it. I also won't have to purchase PSUs to run them all. The 3 S4s are only a little bit above what I
Hi Luke
I would rather 3 S4s and the 6.777 BTC.
This way I'm not trying to find a hosting space for ten miners only 3 and the BTC well help cover it. I also won't have to purchase PSUs to run them all.  The 3 S4s are only a little bit above what I have with 10 3s.
Thanks


From: Luke Rusten <lru...@gawminers.com>
To: Lenny Filer <lenny...@yahoo.com>
Cc: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>; Josh Garza <jo...@btc.com>; Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:35 PM
- show quoted text -

Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

- show quoted text -
Hello Daniel,

The S4 request you made was far outside the amount of hashing power of your S3's and you also wanted BTC on top of that. I went back to the GM with your request and was told that we can only offer you the 10 S3's you own. I think getting the hardware you paid for and some compensation for the free hosting is a reasonable offer so that is what I am pushing for as I want to resolve this for you. 

Thanks,



On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Lenny Filer <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Luke, 

I was just wondering why the original offer for compensation which had the S4's is no longer an option?

I was hoping for the S4's as they are priced so inexpensively now. Even about $100 less than when you first suggested the S4's.

Thanks,
Daniel




From: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>
To: lenny...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

Hello Daniel,

Here is what I can offer you.

10 S3's and 6.777BTC to cover 6 months of hosting based on the $.90 per day, per unit.

Please provide me with a shipping address and BTC address so we can get this wrapped up.

Thanks,

Luke

Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Tue, 10 Feb at 4:30 pm , GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com> wrote:
Hello Daniel,

I am trying to work on this for you and I had some thoughts.

If you are willing to accept hardware instead of BTC would accepting 5 S4's be compensation enough? You are more than doubling your hashing power and you would be receiving hardware that has been used much less than the S3's. Also the S4's are slightly more power efficient than the S3's per GH/s. 

Also including lost mining profits in your request for S4's doesn't make sense as you will be mining and actually making higher profits. If anything I could ask about something to help offset the cost of electricity but I would have to run this by my GM. 

Here is a breakdown of the S3's vs S4's:

S3
Current Hashrate:
4780GH/s
Power consumption:
0.765Watt/GH/s
Current price= $169 x 10 = $1690

S4
5 S4 Hashrate:
10000GH/s+
Power consumption:
0.69Watt/GH/s
Current price= $550 x 5 = $2750

This is all preliminary but I want to make sure when I go to my GM with a proposal he will likely approve it and I think both proposals you made are on the high side. 

Your first offer without accepting hardware you ask that we pay you mining profits (without factoring difficulty/rate decreases) and you ask that we pay you for your free hosting which doesn't really make sense as your free hosting does not come out of your mining profits and therefor do not really make sense to include. Also by the time your free hosting would expire your miners would be worth next to nothing so factoring in a $200 used price (which is already higher than they are selling for) also doesn't really make much sense.

I hope you do not take what I am saying the wrong way I just know my GM will dissect this even further and will likely not approve either offer and I know you are looking for a resolution sooner rather than later.

If you would accept the S4's and my GM would approve I could have them shipped out to you very quickly as well.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Luke


Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Fri, 6 Feb at 6:06 pm , Daniel Simpson <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
  • hello? I sent you an email earlier today and haven't heard back at all, please contact me..thanks!
57643





--
Luke Rusten
TS Manager
GAW Miners LLC
O: (866) 554-5861 x300
C: (802) 275-8932



“The information contained in this email message may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and any attachments from your system.”


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Josh Garza
Feb 18
Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners
Other recipients: lenny...@yahoo.com, sup...@gawminers.com, jo...@btc.com, jo...@gaw.com
I am not close to it, and I trust Luke, so I told him to make sure it was fair. Do you feel he is not being fair?
I am not close to it, and I trust Luke, so I told him to make sure it was fair. Do you feel he is not being fair?
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 4:08 AM, 'Lenny Filer' via josh <jo...@gaw.com> wrote:
Hi Luke
I would rather 3 S4s and the 6.777 BTC.
This way I'm not trying to find a hosting space for ten miners only 3 and the BTC well help cover it. I also won't have to purchase PSUs to run them all.  The 3 S4s are only a little bit above what I have with 10 3s.
Thanks


From: Luke Rusten <lru...@gawminers.com>
To: Lenny Filer <lenny...@yahoo.com>
Cc: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>; Josh Garza <jo...@btc.com>; Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:35 PM

Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

Hello Daniel,

The S4 request you made was far outside the amount of hashing power of your S3's and you also wanted BTC on top of that. I went back to the GM with your request and was told that we can only offer you the 10 S3's you own. I think getting the hardware you paid for and some compensation for the free hosting is a reasonable offer so that is what I am pushing for as I want to resolve this for you. 

Thanks,



On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Lenny Filer <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Luke, 

I was just wondering why the original offer for compensation which had the S4's is no longer an option?

I was hoping for the S4's as they are priced so inexpensively now. Even about $100 less than when you first suggested the S4's.

Thanks,
Daniel




From: GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com>
To: lenny...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: cant change pools with my hardware miners

Hello Daniel,

Here is what I can offer you.

10 S3's and 6.777BTC to cover 6 months of hosting based on the $.90 per day, per unit.

Please provide me with a shipping address and BTC address so we can get this wrapped up.

Thanks,

Luke

Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Tue, 10 Feb at 4:30 pm , GAW Miners <sup...@gawminers.com> wrote:
Hello Daniel,

I am trying to work on this for you and I had some thoughts.

If you are willing to accept hardware instead of BTC would accepting 5 S4's be compensation enough? You are more than doubling your hashing power and you would be receiving hardware that has been used much less than the S3's. Also the S4's are slightly more power efficient than the S3's per GH/s. 

Also including lost mining profits in your request for S4's doesn't make sense as you will be mining and actually making higher profits. If anything I could ask about something to help offset the cost of electricity but I would have to run this by my GM. 

Here is a breakdown of the S3's vs S4's:

S3
Current Hashrate:
4780GH/s
Power consumption:
0.765Watt/GH/s
Current price= $169 x 10 = $1690

S4
5 S4 Hashrate:
10000GH/s+
Power consumption:
0.69Watt/GH/s
Current price= $550 x 5 = $2750

This is all preliminary but I want to make sure when I go to my GM with a proposal he will likely approve it and I think both proposals you made are on the high side. 

Your first offer without accepting hardware you ask that we pay you mining profits (without factoring difficulty/rate decreases) and you ask that we pay you for your free hosting which doesn't really make sense as your free hosting does not come out of your mining profits and therefor do not really make sense to include. Also by the time your free hosting would expire your miners would be worth next to nothing so factoring in a $200 used price (which is already higher than they are selling for) also doesn't really make much sense.

I hope you do not take what I am saying the wrong way I just know my GM will dissect this even further and will likely not approve either offer and I know you are looking for a resolution sooner rather than later.

If you would accept the S4's and my GM would approve I could have them shipped out to you very quickly as well.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Luke


Ticket: GAW Miners

GAW Miners Team- Please visit us at: hashtalk.org

On Fri, 6 Feb at 6:06 pm , Daniel Simpson <lenny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
  • hello? I sent you an email earlier today and haven't heard back at all, please contact me..thanks!
57643





--
Luke Rusten
TS Manager
GAW Miners LLC
O: (866) 554-5861 x300
C: (802) 275-8932



“The information contained in this email message may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and any attachments from your system.”



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